Language Therapy for Autistic Children:
Where do you even start when doing speech therapy with a child with autism or other complex communication delays? Rose Griffin joined us live on August 21st to share her 5 tips for using systematic language instruction to get started with these children. #speechieshow
Below are the links to the products that were talked about in the Speechie show:
- Website: www.abaspeech.org
- Facebook page: https://www.facebook.
com/abaspeech/ - TPT Store: ABA SPEECH by Rose Griffin
- Action Builder Cards: Different Roads or Amazon
- VB Map Assessment: www.avbpress.com
If you’d rather listen to the audio version of the Speechie Show, click here:
Or if you prefer to read the transcript, see below:
Welcome to the Speechie Show! Being a speech-language pathologist often means having too much work and not enough planning time. To beat the overwhelm, we’re bringing you the tricks and tools that will make your job a little bit easier.
Carrie: Hello everybody and welcome back to The Speechie Show. I am your host Carrie Clark from speechandlanguagekids.com and I am here today with Rose Griffin with Aba Speech with Rose and we are chatting today about children with autism and severe complex communication disorders. We’re going to talk about how to make your therapy more systematic. So welcome to the show Rose.
Rose: Hi thanks for having me!
Carrie: Absolutely we’re excited to be here today. I just got finished watching a total solar eclipse which was insane. So, if you are on here with us live I want to know if anyone else saw it today. So, let us know. Type in the comments if you actually saw any part of the solar eclipse today. Rose, you said you were watching it on TV, right? You didn’t actually get to see any of it?
Rose: Yeah. No here in Ohio it was just another gray day. But yeah, we saw it on TV and it looked awesome.
Carrie: Yeah it was pretty cool! My three-year-old definitely freaked out when it got really dark. Because it got like as dark as night here, like we could see the stars, it was insane. And he was like I’m going inside. Hahaha, He was all done. Alright, so we’re here today to talk about autism and complex communication disorders. We’re going to make your therapy a lot more systematic and a lot easier to feel like you know what you’re doing. So, if you’re new to the show, I am Carrie Clark and I am from speechandlanguagekids.com and this is The Speechie Show. We do this once a week. We hop on with a new speech language pathologist from a different company. We share some tips, we share some resources, and we’re going to do some giveaways here and a couple minutes. So, stay tuned if you are joining us on Facebook Live today. And Rose why don’t you go ahead and start off with some introductions and then we’ll get into our five tips.
Rose: Sure. My name is Rose Griffin like she said and I am a speech language pathologist and a board-certified behavior analyst. so, I work with all different types of students in the positions that I work with. I work 3 days a week and a public school, middle school high school. And I work one day a week at a clinic that is devoted to working with students with autism. And so that’s really the area that I specialize in is helping speech therapist feel more comfortable providing functional and systemic therapy for students who have autism and anybody who is really struggling to find their voice and develop a functional response form.
Carrie: Perfect. So, one thing I kind of wanted to bring up at this point in the interview is I feel like there are often two camps, there’s the speech language pathologist and there’s the ABA therapist and they seem to be butting heads.
Rose: Right.
Carrie: So you kind of brought those two together. Can you talk a little bit about the difference between the two and why we don’t need to fight hahaha.
Rose: Right! Yes, well I did a blog post for ASHA in May about how speech therapist and BCBA’s can work together collaboratively and I think it’s just hard because we learn different things in graduate school and sometimes the things that were working on together with a client are not mutually exclusive. That they could be the same types of things and speech therapist or board-certified behavior analyst can be coming at those things differently. And so sometimes I think speech language pathologist is we’re doing a lot of the things that were talking about in the behavioral world but maybe we’re calling them something different. And so, I think there’s, from both camps, is that I wish BCBA’s would learn a little bit more about the broad scope of practice that speech therapist has, and I wish speech therapist would understand that BCBS’s really are here to help and can really work together collaboratively. we can help students with these complex needs and really just make great progress and get their lives back and be able to communicate with the world. And it can be so very exciting. But it’s a process and that’s really what I’ve been passionate about and trying to get you know the two sides to kind of talk together. Because there are not too many people who are duly certified.
Carrie: Yes. Honestly, I feel a lot of times it becomes this just this fear of the unknown. Like I don’t really understand what you a be a therapist are doing and it doesn’t seem right to me. Whereas we are doing the same stuff or just calling at different things like you said.
Rose: Exactly. So just kind of getting on a level playing field and knowing what all the different acronyms mean that are related to behavior analysis. Which will talk about some of those yeah today to.
Carrie: Perfect, perfect. Alright if you are joining us on Facebook Live we are going to be doing some giveaways so stay tuned. And we would love to see where you’re from, so type in the comments where you’re from and if you saw an eclipse today because I did and it was awesome. Alright we’re going to move in while we’re waiting on those comments to come through, we’re going to move into our five tips for making your language intervention…click here to read the full transcript.
About the Author: Carrie Clark, MA CCC-SLP
Hi, I’m Carrie! I’m a speech-language pathologist from Columbia, Missouri, USA. I’ve worked with children and teenagers of all ages in schools, preschools, and even my own private practice. I love digging through the research on speech and language topics and breaking it down into step-by-step plans for my followers.
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Teacher for young children with ASD.. Thanks!
Can anyone point me to resources that would help us advocate for the appropriate amount of speech and language (as well as OT) in our 3-year old son’s IEP? He is non-verbal and eligible for developmental preschool (5 days a week), but the speech and language minutes are very low–30 minutes a week. We want to go into our IEP meeting with solid, research based information to help us advocate successfully for more time.
Hi, Carrie-I found this link on Carrie’s site for IEP’s: https://www.speechandlanguagekids.com/?s=iep. Please let us know if you need anything further.